Oct 27, 2018

Compost Teas are Organs (Not Organ Systems nor Tissues)


While still early in my research, I think this is an interesting concept. Here's how it came to my mind: pulling from Julia Ender's "Gut" book, some scientists have claimed that the human microbiome (the microorganisms living in the human gut and other organs) can itself be called an organ. Some ecologists even go so far as to say the human body is simply a sack that provides an optimal environment for a microbial mass (potential organ) to live in. So here's my idea: compost teas are organs. like the human microbiome has suggested to be. If you research the order of life according to biology or recall your junior high/high school experience, the structure of life is: cells->tissue(s)->organ(s)->organ system(s)-> organism (many organ systems). While both tissues and organs have specific purposes, an organ is composed of many tissues obligated towards a specific task. An organ is also like an organ system in that it has a purpose in an organisms body, but organ systems contain multiple organs working together to achieve the same goal. Therefore, compost tea microbiomes, containing multiple tissues working together functions like an organ more than it does like tissue(s) or organ system(s). What are we doing with this organ? It depends on its purpose, some use compost teas for nutrient cycling while others use them to restore soil or other purposes. What I think should be noted though, is that we are adding an organ to our grows, if we are to classify compost teas as any structure of life. The question remains, what then would the entire plant in its soil be called? I don't know. An organism at least, and potentially and organism working with an organ or organ system(s), since stacking compost teas is like stacking organs in the soil. I think ecologists call it the rhizome. Perhaps what I am arriving upon is that the rhizome, or the sturdy base of plants+subterranean roots of trees/plants/mushrooms, is a group of organs (AKA organ system(s)), and compost teas contribute organs to this system. Did @Chef say that the grow op is an organism? Because with the plants rhizome being considered organ systems as concluded above, this actually makes perfect sense. The plants act as organ systems to complete the organism, or wholly grow op.

Oct 29, 2018

You could consider the entire planet as a single living organism with a diverse amount of microorganisms that maintains a balance for life to thrive.

Oct 30, 2018

I wish I had cleaned this post up a little before posting it. Some of my thoughts are purely theoretical, clearly. Point made though I think. Don't know why I felt like I had to share this one so quickly! Thanks for responding even though this one was a little all over the place @Chef, particularly when you are so busy. That's fascinating to think about. The entire planet is like an organism. I found the quote I was looking for... "I see a grow op as a living breathing organism with many systems that creates a synergy for life to thrive. Hydro is the blood running thru the veins of the grow op. Electricity transforms into light which is harnessed by the plant thru photosynthesis" (Loc 218 of Medical Marijuana Grower's Guide). You said it well there too, Chef B! To clarify, I was trying to say compost teas have a purpose in this organism, they provide a vital organ to plants that may be missing it, the microbial organ in the soil. Perhaps it is too reductionist to call plants' microbiomes' organs since it would be an organ with extremely diverse functionality, which is unusual. For instance, the stomach is an acid bath. I cannot reduce the microbiome to such a singular function, after all, microbes are known for their rich diversity in genetics and the many functions they perform. I don't even know what organ to compare compost teas to. They are their very own kind I suppose. Or I can't recall enough biology lol. Perhaps as we discover more about the microbes that inhabit the liver, lungs, and other organs, it will appear to be like one of those, but I suspect it is its own unique organ, one like we have never seen and one in which is leading to breaking records across organic farming. We must pay close attention to this component of organic growing, compost teas, as this field of study continues to develop. To say again, I am just excited to be a part of this developing field of study. Okay, that's the end of my blurb.

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  • Hi all. Below is a recipe for a homemade organic pro-mix taken from SF Gate. I know Chef has passed but I think this is still an excellent forum to gather on and spread research with. I do think someone should comment on if this web page will exist for long though as well just in case so this valuable research is not deleted! I have back ups just in case but I'll make a seperate post for that. Onto the pro-mix recipe: 1/3 peat moss 1/3 perlite 1/3 organic gardening soil 1/4 cup garden lime per gallon of mix I have tried it and it works. Be careful if you have hard water, you will need to add intermediate chelators (AKA L-Amino Acids) to chelate the calcium, magnesium, etc in your water to prevent transpiration issues etc general salt issues that occur with mixing hard water and this fairly sweet and calcium and magnesium rich soil mix. I recommend going easy on the dolomite lime in general and also go easy on the peat moss, peaty soil is known to compact. If you are gonna be moving plants in pots add more perlite than peat moss because this will help with transpiration issues that come from compaction when moving potted plants around. You'll notice how good this mix smells and works for plants! You'll get very fast growing plants because this mix is focused on high porosity for a very high rate of transpiration and therefore plant mass production! Also note that this mix only feeds plants for a couple weeks and then you will need to add some salts for the plant and soil health. Adding a bit of organic matter to the soil eventually will be a good idea as well to continue feeding your organic base in the soil. I personally have a food web with springtails being consumed by a certain antonymous fungi in my soil I try to keep going. The springtails don't leave the pot and the fungi and springtails provide a ton of nitrogen to the plant, potentially CO2 as well! This cycle has successfully infected all the pots in my house interestingly. Sources: SF Gate Guide for peat moss pH balancing: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/balance-ph-lime-peat-potting-33867.html Peat moss to perlite ratio (Also SF Gate): https://homeguides.sfgate.com/recommended-ratio-peat-moss-perlite-46321.html SF Gate's article on the disadvantages of soil-less media (similar to this growing medium (pro-mix) minus the organic gardening soil): https://homeguides.sfgate.com/disadvantages-soilless-mixes-92328.html SF Gate article on composition of potting soil (good place to start to understand potting soils which are often replaced by soil-less pro-mixes). Also ratios of stuff: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/composition-potting-soil-75052.html On the springtail and fungi note, that is harder to source. The certain springtail eating and red hued mushroom producing fungi comes from Host Defence's Myco-Blend all purpose microbial and biostimulant inoculant and I think the springtails followed me via transporting the same compost over a long period of time. On the transpiration topic: Dr. B.C. Wolverton's book "How to Grow Fresh Air" explains that there is an equation that dictates how much air a plant is filtering dependent upon how much mass the plant produces. This has a lot to do w/ the soil medium. High porosity soil makes for the fastest mass production in plants. PS. If you have your own high porosity pro-mix or something similar please post it here. Of particular interest are environmentally friendly mixes, which the above mentioned mix is not due to the unsustainable peat moss component. Coco coir can be used to replace it (and is more environmentally friendly) but then potassium salts should be added at some point although I am less experienced with that mix so I don't know how soon potassium would be essential. I imagine co co coir may cause issues w/ pH because it may not be super acidic and so dolomite lime may need to be adjusted to lesser quantity per gallon. Also this mix may have too much calcium and magnesium due to coco coir and dolomite lime having so much of these elements. Maybe it'd be fine though. A good pH, texture, and an organic base, and magical things can happen with any soil mix basically.

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