Jun 1, 2018

Fertilizers for outdoor plants


Hello everybody. I would like to find out what types of natural fertilizers people use outside. Compost , egg shells ? chicken manure tea ? :) let me know ! thanks

~mike from michigan

Jun 2, 2018Edited: Jun 2, 2018

It's important to remember to know about any potential contamination that any hay, soil or manure has been exposed to. As an example, some herbicide active ingredients can pass through animals that have eaten contaminated hay and stay in the manure for 3 years or more. A similar problem exists for baled hay. Picloram is an example of such an active ingredient. There are other concerns about making sure one knows the source of everything being introduced in to the garden.


If you access to the content, Chef B gives specifics about his particular soil mix for the outdoor grow project in the Season 2 Episode 1 video

Jun 2, 2018

Thank you Local Fixx I will check out that Episode. :)

Jun 17, 2018

Sorry this took so long to answer. As Local Fixx has mentioned, the answer is in the first video but I just realized you all may not have a subscription to the channel so I copied and pasted my soil recipe from my grow book.



1 bail of promix or sunshine mix 3.8 cu.ft.

Or you can make a better soil base.

Peat moss 50%

Coco Coir 50%

Perlite 25%



2 gl. of Worm castings

4 gl. of Mushroom compost

4 cups of kelp meal

8 cups of Alfalfa meal

2 cups of Neem meal

8 cups of Bone meal

2 cups of Glacial rock dust

3 cups of Dolomite lime

2 cups of Fishbone meal

2 cups of Sulphate of potash (rocket fuel for flowering)

1 cup of Epsom Salt

Humic acid

There are many more amendments that you can add to the soil. You can go with manures and bat guano. Blood meal, fish meal, feather meal, basalt, green sand, oyster shell flour, gypsum, rock phosphate.

Is that a one time mix, since this is living soil that is kept?

Jun 28, 2018

coffee grounds, banana peel, wood ash, fish scraps, urine @ 1/11, rabbit poop.

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